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How do you learn to heal better?

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I currently have a Level 80 disc priest. My gear is approximately TOC-10 level.

I leveled mostly through battlegrounds, and pretty quickly outgeared heroics for healing; at this point, most of my healing in heroics tends to be spent DPSing, rather than healing, so I don't have a lot of experience healing anything difficult. I hit 80 after TOC was already on farm for pretty much everyone.

I use a relatively standard set of Disc/Holy builds, picked up from Epic Advice. I'm wearing four pieces of T9, use mostly spellpower gems, etc.

Typically, as a disc healer, I:

  • Keep bubbles on tanks
  • Flash heal when damage is low, Penance + Flash Heal when damage is high
  • Keep PoM on cooldown (this is something I need to improve; I tend to forget). I almost always toss this to the current tank.
  • Toss a bubble to any DPS who are taking damage -- the Glyph of Power Word: Shield will usually get them up to the point where they're not far below 100% anymore, and the bubble will keep them save from more incoming damage
  • Toss a bubble to anyone who isn't a tank who has aggro, based on the assumption that they're going to get hit soon.
  • Prayer of Healing when everyone takes damage.

One problem that I know I have is that I often PoH -- and cast in general -- without Borrowed Time. I tried to set up a Power Aura to let me know when it was up, but it hasn't proven particularly effective. (I should probably change the aura to be the opposite -- only show when it's not up.)

In easy content, this works fine, obviously; however, in harder content, I find that:

  1. I have a tendancy to run out of mana. I typically only get to use Shadowfiend once in a fight, use Hymn of Hope in the last 20%, and usually end up at the end of a fight gasping for mana. Now, an obvious solution to this is to trade my spellpower gems for Int gems, but...
  2. I find that tanks end up dying. On Saurfang, I was two-healing with another disc priest. When the tank had Mark of the Fallen Champion on him, I simply couldn't heal him fast enough in the enrage: Saurfang would pop my bubble almost instantly, and the cooldown on Penance would be long enough that I couldn't keep the tank up with Flash Heals alone.

(Unfortunately, I didn't log my most recent attempt into ICC, which probably would have been helpful.)

Although I know numbers for healers aren't anything like DPS numbers, what I observed two-healing Saurfang with another disc priest was that I was doing pretty much exactly the same "hps"/total healing, with myself doing 15% overheals and him doing 45% overheals. I don't have the GuessedAbsorbs addon, so I don't know what the shields looked like.

Currently, I feel uncomfortable going into an ICC-25 -- both gear and skill are insufficient for me to feel like anything but dead weight. However, in ICC 10 (since I'm only pugging) I tend to find the groups I'm with somewhat fail in other ways -- like the Marrowgar on 10 last week where I healed right up to the enrage timer. TOC 10 runs are either gravy trains with people who have it on farm, or hellish fights with no one doing > 3k damage.

I can't practice any effective healing in heroics; everything is too easy. Half the dungeons can be done without a healer at all. TOC depends entirely on the group makeup, but typically if I can't heal it the fault isn't entirely my own. I feel bad having someone drag me into ICC knowing that I seem to run out of mana/not be able to heal when I need to.

What can I do to improve my overall healing performance as a Disc priest? How can I measure my current performance and see if it's getting better? ("The tanks don't die" is an understandable metric, but somewhat limited in utility; if I can only heal 4 hard fights a week, and no tanks die, that's not necessarily only a comment on my performance.) With nothing like a 'healing dummy' or other fight mechanics to make me test my healing, how can I improve my performance?

Edit: Thanks for all the awesome advice in this post. Last night, I went into ICC 10 with the guild when we couldn't find a decent tank healer for our third heal spot. (We would normally 2-heal the Lower Spire, but planned to go into the Plaugeworks, and didn't want to kick anyone after getting them locked.) Although 3-healing is obviously a bit easier than 2-healing, the end result was that I had a great chance to learn without feeling utterly crushed or causing wipes. In the end, many of the tips included here proved useful.

As far as learning to heal: three healing harder content than I feel comfortable in was very useful. It allowed me to observe more of the fight around me; observing from the standpoint of a healer vs. a DPS is very different, obviously, and I was able to think slightly more with three heals than with 2. (I know this because several times during the fight our druid DCed and I was two-healing, and I've two-healed before. :))

I posted some recollections in a blog entry on healing ICC 10 as a disc priest showing what I learned; I appreciate all the advice that I was given, and was able to take it to the raid and really get a feel for how I was doing, so thank you all.

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Great question and good answers so far. One note on healer evaluation is, Disc is less about pure healing/shielding numbers, and more about saving single targets from sudden spike damage, be they tanks or DPS in a fire. So use meters, but don't rely on them; and I find it helpful for each fight to ask myself, how can I best mitigate tank damage and save raid members from critical damage. – Wikwocket (Mar 2 2010 8:48 AM)

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I would say to improve your mana efficiency would be to use Penance more. Its amazing HPMana. Depending on how much total mana you have it can be worth while to keep PW:S up on two targets as well, as the returns from Rapture can exceed the costs of PW:S at higher gear levels.

I'd say you're definitely on the right track, and the only thing that really helps once you get to this level is actually going and trying the harder stuff. Most of the time in larger raids, or harder raids the person who tops the healing charts is the person with lowest latency and the twitchy-est trigger finger.

My best advice would be to pug a ICC 25 and see how it goes, especially if you're comfortable with the fights from 10 man.

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IMHO, 2 ways you can go to get better,

Option 1. Do more ICC, you will never be confidant in your healing if you don;t do the things that are hard to you. I play a Restro shammy as a main, and i learned to heal by, trail by fire, sure I suxed the first few raids but after that I'm one of the best healers in my guild.

Option 2. Heal PvP, Get a 2v2 area team or do BG and practice keeping people up thur burst damg and keeping your self alive as well. I know PvP healing and PvE healing is two diffent beast but in PvP there always alot of "raid" damg, and burst damg. '

side note, healing rotation i find to be full of jack. Each run, Each tank, takes its own approach to healing, while some time a set rotation is good to keep a tank out, knowing how much damg your tank can take w/o dieing and how fast he die can help your mana greatly. Why use a big heal when a small heal will do, when in the fight can i take a 10 sec breather to let my MP5 work, you are a healer you control who lives and who dies, triage as well who need your heal and what heal to you is key, and know this you need to run and learn your raid mates.

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I would disagree about the suggestion about healing PvP. PvP uses different healing strategies and tactics and even spells than PvE.

The only way to improve at healing is to heal things outside your comfort zone. Instead of 3 healing ICC10, 2 heal it. Run ToGC, Ulduar Hard Modes, anything that takes you outside of the farm-zone comfort zone. If you can run 25 man instances in guild, run ToC with 4 healers, or ICC with 4-5 healers. When you have to do more, you start to learn little tricks and tactics to optimize your healing.

Next, read, read, read. Find blogs and forums about your class and see how other people are healing. Find spreadsheets and learn. Learn about boss fights. Sometimes being a good healer is knowing when someone needs to be spammed and when they can be ignored at 60% health. You only learn that by knowing fights. Watch videos. People in your class can be your best teachers. Download and configure proper mods. Grid with raid status debuffs, DXE/DBM, possibly Clique or Healbot. Improving your ability to assess raid status and incoming damage will help you pick a better heal, will improve you.

Lastly, remember that healing is an art, not a science. It has an ebb and flow that you have to recognize for each fight or else it devolves into chaotic whack-a-mole. Also, if you're honestly trying to learn, make sure your guild/raid mates know that. Don't be afraid to experiment with new rotations or assignments, just be willing to admit if you make a mistake.

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My most recent run at ICC10 was all two-healing. Unfortunately, I'm in a limited-playtime guild, and I prefer to use my main (Hunter) in guild runs; doing anything in a PUG which could lead to more wipes feels irresponsible. So it seems like part of the answer is "get a regular group that's willing to be nice while you learn to not suck" :) – Christopher Schmidt (Mar 1 2010 4:33 PM)

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Accepting this answer because it was the closest to the one I actually asked, even though all the answers were great: this answers the "How to heal better" general question, and I think is the most useful answer to that question for others who might show up in the future. Thanks again for all the help! – Christopher Schmidt (Mar 4 2010 3:34 PM)

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1. I'm going to disagree with the post saying NOT to heal in PVP.

  • Arena is not going to help you practice raid healing, but Alterac Valley and--to a certain extent--other battlegrounds will.

  • Set up all your healing addons, stick with the huge mass of players (most notably AV again) and heal. Unfortunately, you won't see that much enemy action in AV unless people decide to turtle, which is why checking out Arathi Basin and Isle of Conquest can also situationally be good practice.

  • People will be taking damage in prodigious quantities when you run into the enemy, and if you stay behind the crowd out of reach of DK death grips, you will usually be safe to go into full raid-healing mode.

  • Without the soul-crushing feeling of failure you get in raids when people die, I might add.

2. Are you trying too hard to heal like a holy priest?

  • Remember that disc priests are more about mitigation than healing per se. If you have aoe healers in the raid, your niche is to "preserve" the dying people by bubbling them in order to give the resto druids, shammies, holy priests enough time to bring their health up again.

  • Using Prayer of Healing is going to burn through your mana like a hot knife through butter. Try to save it only for special occasions. In fact, let the aoe healers handle it as much as possible.

  • Rapture is your main source of mana--plan carefully. If several people are going to/ are taking damage at the same time (say, standing near Marrowgar and he's about to do his whirlwind), bubble them all at the same time. When your bubble breaks on them all at once, you'll get a ton of mana back.

  • This video may help with your mana struggles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnGKkc4p6XA

3. What trinkets are you using?

Trinkets make a HUGE difference. Purified Lunar Dust and Solace of the Defeated are pretty incredible for mana return. If you're wearing pure throughput trinkets, you might want to swap to mana trinkets. It may hurt lowering your potential throughput, but remember, you can't heal if you have no mana at all.

4. Performance Measurement

Healing is always tricky to measure. Who is better, the healer who spammed hots on all the raid enough to buffer them against incoming AOE, or the healer who kept the tank up through monstrous 20k hits? What about the healer who wasn't top on the healing meters but who blew his cds exactly when they counted, and saved the raid from wiping from a tank death?

However, if you wish to see the concrete numbers for the amount of damage you're able to mitigate in a fight, you'll want to check out:

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This answer makes a bunch of great points. Shield and Penance more, Flash and PoH sparingly. – Wikwocket (Mar 2 2010 8:46 AM)

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I understand that healing performance is difficult to measure; in fact, that was part of the thrust of my question, since I don't even know how to monitor my own performance to tell when I'm doing better. I don't try to heal like a holy priest -- at least, not that I'm aware of. I've never been a holy priest. However, I do typically find that I have to heal everyone, or at least feel like I do, because otherwise they don't get healed. Perhaps this isn't actually right, and I need to learn when to just chill out on keeping people up; that's part of learning, but how to learn that is a question. – Christopher Schmidt (Mar 2 2010 9:57 AM)

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First, what glyphs are you using? If you have POH glyphed, replace it with a Flash Heal glyph and use Flash heal for when you see someone isn't getting heals. Otherwise, spend all your time bubbling. Remember you put in all those talent points towards maximizing your bubbles and getting mana back from them: don't let them go to waste! If you see aoe raid damage incoming, try to bubble up as much of the raid as you can and let the aoe healers heal them. I hope the scenario you described where you and another disc priest were 2-healing the 10 man isn't your usual setup, because that does – Fiyeri (Mar 2 2010 10:43 PM)

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If you have POH glyphed, replace it with a Flash Heal glyph and use Flash heal for when you see someone isn't getting heals. Otherwise, spend all your time bubbling. Remember you put in all those talent points towards maximizing your bubbles and getting mana back from them: don't let them go to waste! If you see aoe raid damage incoming, try to bubble up as much of the raid as you can and let the aoe healers heal them. – Fiyeri (Mar 2 2010 10:44 PM)

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Also, I hope the scenario you described where you and another disc priest were 2-healing the 10 man isn't your usual setup, because that does screw up both you and the other priest. Ideally there would be just one disc priest to bubble the raid, and a different sort of healer to top people off. – Fiyeri (Mar 2 2010 10:45 PM)

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Most of the previous posts have already raised the main good points. I'd like to stress and reinforce a couple of things.

Mana Regen

I'd like to reiterate the importance of Rapture (and the need to learn how to "trick" it, if you're having mana issues), and the chance you have to just change trinkets if you feel there are fights where you simply need more mana. Keep in mind that, in terms of regen, Int is actually as valuable as Spirit and mp5 if not more: Replenishment, Hymn of Hope and Shadowfiend all give you mana based on your max mana, so increasing your int will increase also all your sources of mana regen. Thus, Talisman of Resurgence is actually a great second trinket if you have no access to TOC25 (and much better than the Purified Lunar Dust, imho - but it does get into issues of personal preference).

Also, don't underestimate the "total mana increase" effect of Hymn of Hope. The consequence of that is that using the shadowfiend and then channeling Hymn of Hope will give you even more mana back than normal. Similarly, if you have two priests, channeling both Hymns at the same time does wonders (Mimiron phase transitions used to be great for this - any kind of big gap with nothing happening works though).

Healing Strategies and Tricks

If you're tank healing, especially in 10-man, don't underestimate Greater Heal. With Borrowed Time up, it's likely to be a 1.5 sec cast in ToC10 level gear. So, my rotation on a tank is something like Shield - Penance - GHeal - ProM - Renew - Penance - FHeal as a filler. Gheal has better throughput than Flash, even with little to no talents to support it.

Another "trick" involves shielding someone (the OT, yourself, a melee), and then using that borrowed time for the GHeal on the MT. Have your raid frames show who has weakened soul and who doesn't _ and target whoever doesn't with a new shield.

Finally, make liberal use of Inner Focus. Macro it to Divine Hymn and PoH at least - but also to GHeal if you find yourself using Gheal a lot. More crit = more Divine Aegis, and the fact that Inner Focus doesn't trigger the GCD means you can just put it in a macro straight, without any worry about castsequences.

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Two Man Drills

To get better at healing and to help me and my favorite tank work better together we developed 2-man drills.

  1. Hook up with a tank you raid with.
  2. Enter a heroic you both know well.
  3. Go as far in the heroic as you can with just the two of you.
  4. If it seems to easy, remove enough gear pieces to make each pull challenging.

Remember it doesn't really matter how far you get or how long a pull takes. What matters is that you are both alive after the final mob from the pull is killed. In fact the longer it takes the more it will teach you about wise mana management.

We found that this was great for developing skills and getting used to each other's play styles without inconveniencing other players.

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